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- Here's a simple, practical tutorial for getting people online. Nothing too
- advanced here. The email requests have been flooding me so I guess it IS worth
- a post.
-
- Distribute freely.
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- Beginners Guide to Internet Stuff.
-
- This tutorial captures my experiences with Trumpet Winsock and various
- clients under Microsoft Windows. I'm no expert but I'll try to build
- a bridge between beginners and experts.
-
-
- WINSOCK:
-
- Winsock is a cooperative specification defined by various companies
- and government agencies involved in networking. It is an API
- superset of Berkeley Sockets with additional routines required
- to cooperate with the MS Window environment.
-
- There are two catagories of products that a user should understand;
- winsock compliant drivers and winsock compliant clients. Being
- compliant means that the product implements it's side of the winsock
- API; thus any winsock client can use any winsock driver. Winsock is
- specific to Microsoft Windows and NT.
-
- Drivers:
-
- Winsock drivers implement the API through network protocols such
- as TCP/IP, SL/IP or PPP. TCP/IP is a long standing protocol for
- dedicated networks such an Ethernets, DecNets, and WANs like
- direct Internet connections.
-
- SL/IP stands for Serial Link/Internetworking Protocol; otherwise
- known as dialup service. This protocol can be used over phones
- via a modem. I use this protocol implemented by the Trumpet
- Winsock product, a shareware version available on Internet.
-
- PPP is a more robust protocol that works like SL/IP; ie. dialup.
- SL/IP was created informally early on and is widely supported. PPP
- was created formally, is technically better, but is still catching
- up in popularity.
-
- Clients:
-
- Winsock clients include newsreaders for NNTP services, mail readers
- for POP mail services, FTP for downloading from ftp sites, Gopher
- for navigating through Gopher servers to find stuff, and Archie which
- helps you find stuff to ftp. Other clients include time syncing clients
- to set your PC clock, WAIS and WWW for hypertext searching, and
- Telnet for getting terminal access to another machine. I'll only
- talk about those clients that I've used.
-
-
- HANDLING INFORMATION:
-
- To conserve bandwidth, a variety of compression techniques are
- used on raw files. To be able to use these files, you'll need
- to recognize them and have the appropriate decompressor. To post
- big files you should have the compressing part. The well dressed
- Internaut should have:
-
- File extension utility
-
- *.zip pkzip
- *.zoo zoo
- *.tar unix tar
- *.arc pkarc
- *.Z compress
-
- The above compression formats are all 8 bits per byte and you must
- use a binary mode to move these files across Internet. Services
- such as news and email are 7-bits per byte and you must use uuencode/
- uudecode to convert between 7 and 8 bits. uu*code is a unix utility
- that has been ported to most machines. You can ftp these compression
- utilities from CICA at /pub/msdos/Archive.
-
- One popular way to burn bandwidth is exchanging pictures. The
- newsgroups alt.binaries.* are used to exchange various kinds of
- pictures using uu*code (since news is 7 bits). To view these
- pictures, use the news reader to read the article. The picture
- will look like a mass of scrambled characters. Save this article
- to a file. If the picture is in parts, read each article in order
- and APPEND them to the same file. Run this file through uudecode and
- the picture will come out. You can view this picture with picture
- viewers. Again, different file extensions use different viewers.
- The well dressed picture fan should have:
-
- *.gif WinGif or others Graphical Interchange Format (compuserve)
- *jpg ecjjpg or winJPG JPEG, very high res with small files.
- Most popular on I'net.
- *.mpg vmpeg or others MPEG--motion picture version of JPEG
- *.tga Targa as in targa boards.
- *.bmp Paint MS Windows uncompressed bitmaps
- *.rle Paint and others MS Windows compressed bitmaps
- *.dib Paint/WinGif/others MS Windows Device Independent Bitmaps
-
- CICA has these utilities under /pub/pc/win3/*.
-
- GETTING PLUGGED IN:
-
- 1) Get an account at a SL/IP service provider. These a usually
- commercial sites that will sell you access to internet using a
- variety of dialup protocols such as SL/IP, PPP or UUCP.
-
- When you talk to the provider, ask the following questions.
- You'll need the answers later in the process.
-
- a) News hostname
- b) mail hostname
- c) POP hostname
-
- You should also decide what you want your account name to be.
- This will be used to build your email address.
-
- MY EXPERIENCE: Use a regular comm program such as Procomm to
- dial into the SL/IP modems and login as 'new' (or whatever it
- says). Answer some questions and logout. Among the questions will
- be your account name and a password. Remember what you give these
- questions; you'll need them later. Some systems have 'features'
- that make sure you pick a good password; long enough, uncommon
- words and mixed case are the usual rules. Keep trying until the
- machine accepts one--and remember it! Also write down what the
- user and password prompts were.
-
- Some time later, the network operator will setup your account.
- You'll need to call the service provider first to find out the
- number, terms, and exact procedures.
-
- To get the winsock dialer working, you'll need to build a custom
- login.cmd script. If you're familiar with UUCP chat scripts, you
- shouldn't have any problem with this. While you're using the comm
- program to request an account, keep track of the prompts and responses
- needed to get it the system. Part of the login.cmd will be customized
- for your provides prompts. Some ask for Login: while others ask for
- UserID:. The script will need to know which string to wait for.
- The bottom part of the example login.cmd that comes with Trumpet
- is fairly obvious and can do whatever you want. After the line where
- you 'parse your IP address', you can do anything, ping for hosts,
- finger someone everytime, or start your first client which is what
- I do.
-
- This is the hardest part. If you get stuck, find someone who
- uses the same provider and steal their login.cmd and bye.cmd files.
-
- To actually dial, use the Dialler | Login menu item to run the
- login.cmd script. When you're done, use the Dialler | Bye menu
- item to run the bye.cmd script. If the login fails for any reason
- like BUSY, bad user id/password, etc, the ESC key will abort the
- script. Once the msg SLIP ENABLED comes up, you can try again.
-
-
- 2) Configure your first client (News/Mail reader):
-
- Normally you start the Trumpet driver and get connected then start
- a client to get something done. Trumpet also includes a newsreader.
- Lets start this one first. Start with the File |Setup menu.
-
- News Nost Name: The name of the NNTP server. Ask your provider.
- Mail Host Name: The name of the mail server. Ask your provider.
- E-Mail Address: The account name you specified while setting up the
- account @ the Mail Host Name again (usually).
- Full Name: This is your name as you want to be known on mail and
- postings. This name is used for the human part of email
- addresses and to credit you with the parts you write
- in news articles.
- Organization: The name for that part of news and email headers.
- Signature Filename: The drive:\path\filename of your sig file. This
- file will be appended to every news article and
- email messsage you send. This is where people put
- USPS addresses, company details, disclaimers,
- cute quotes, ASCII art, etc. On Unix, this
- file is named .sig. If you see someone on
- I'net talking about the .sig, this is what
- they're talking about.
- POP Host Name: Usually the same as your Mail Nost. Ask your provider.
- POP Username: Your name as known to the POP host. Usually the same
- as the first part of the EMail Address.
- Password: The passwors you gave the provider. It will echo stars back
- to you. Dont forget it cuz you'll need for the login.cmd
- script too. This password is used for fetching mail.
-
- Next go to the File | Network Setup menu.
-
- IP address: 0.0.0.0 Your actually IP address with determined
- at login time.
- Time Server: 0.0.0.0 I dont think Trumpet actually supports
- NTP time servers.
- Domain Suffix: Leave blank.
-
- Now use File | Save Settings to keep all this work.
-
- Use File | Reconnect to try out the settings. If it doesn't work,
- find a network friend. Otherwise, start reading some newsgroups.
- If you're new to Newsgroups, it's good manners to just read for
- awhile (don't post) to see what the rules of the group are. Most
- groups will have a Fequently Asked Questions (FAQ) file available
- on request for newbies. Ask for the FAQ or wait for it to be
- posted. Most moderators will occasionally post if not explicitly
- asked. Also, not all newsgroups are moderated so the language
- may be a bit 'unconstrained'. Welcome to democracy gone crazy.
-
- When you start posting, Use Post for originating a new conversation,
- use Follow to publicly comment on someone else's article and use
- Reply to send a private email response to the author.
-
- This client has a mail reader that can be accessed through the
- Window menu item. Fetch will get your mail and everything else
- work like the news reader screen. Once you're in, Article |
- Subcribe will give a list of all the newsgroups available through
- your provider. The top listbox filters the first part of the newsgroup
- name. The right listbox shows the groups you can subscribe to. Click
- a group to subscribe. That group will then move to the left listbox.
- Click OK to put these new groups on you top pane.
-
- The list of subscribed groups will appear in the
- top pane of the main window. Doubleclick one to download
- the titles. Doubleclick a title to download and read an article.
- The first time you scan a newsgroup, it'll take awhile. It will be
- retrieving all articles still on the machine rather than all
- articles you haven't read yet. If you want to start fresh, use
- Article | Catch Up. After you've read all the articles in a group,
- use Article | Read All to get rid of the ones you didn't even
- download. If you don't, they'll keep coming back.
-
- Everything else for this client is in the docs and is left as
- an exercise for the student (I always wanted to say that :))
-
- 3) Configure another client (Eudora mail reader):
-
- I like the Eudore mail reader. I use the freeware version but
- once you outgrow that you can buy the commercial version
- that has nice features like message filtering and sorting.
-
- Under the Special | Configuration menu item:
-
- POP Account: chico@halcyon.com is my name@POP host
- Real Name: you know.
- SMTP: I dont use it cuz Eudora can only read via SMTP
- which is why I'm using SLIP.
- Return Address: Where you want people to send answers to your email.
- Doesnt have to be the same as POP Account. At work,
- I have return messsage come to my home.
-
- Check for mail: The duration to periodically recheck mail.
- Ph Server: halcyon.com in my case. Ask your provider.
- Fonts: I like courier cuz it's non proportional.
- Message Width: This is tricker than it looks. This and the font size
- determines the width of the msg window to read and
- compose msgs. If you set it too narrow, you wont be
- able to see the Queue button to send msgs.
-
- Under Special | Switches is some more settings. The key one here is
- Save Password. If you dont set this, you'll be prompted
- for the password everytime you check mail. If set,
- you'll only be asked the first time. Special |
- Forget Password can be used to when you dont want
- other to get into your mail.
-
- Use File |Check Mail to actually fetch your mail.
-
- 4) now for some FTP.
-
- I use WS_FTP by John Junod. It has a nice windows interface and can
- be resized to see long unix file names. It starts you with a few
- popular ftp sites. CICA is the one MS windows people should get to know.
- It has just about every windows shareware app ever built. Most ftp sites
- allow anonymous login (thats your user id). When logging in anonymously,
- it's good manners to use your email address as the password. WS_FTP does
- this for you. Go through the Connect button to get connected. Messages
- come in the little box at the bottom. Your directories are on the left,
- the remote's are on the right, when you find something you want, hit the
- left arrow button in the middle and watch the bits fly. Right button
- is for uploading. There's usually an UPLOAD directory on a ftp site that
- will give you the write permissions you need. Once you get Ftp, it's
- time to go shopping for other clients, data, pictures, anything. Get
- ftp working ASAP. You'll love it. Start at CICA at ftp.cica.indiana.edu
- (anonymous). You can get most everything I talked about here at CICA under
- /pub/pc/win3/winsock. The current time sync is at
- ftp.cac.washington.edu in /pub/winsock/tsync1_7.zip.
-
- 5) PINGing:
-
- Same guy has a nice simple ping program, WS_PING. Type in a host name
- under LookUp then use BlockingPing or AsyncPing to see if the host
- is there.
-
- 6) Setting Time.
-
- One little client I like is Time Sync 1.7 by Brad Greer of
- university o' Washington. It will connect to a unix machine that
- provides the unix time service on socket 37 and sets your local
- PC clock to match. This isn't the Navy's Atomic Clock but lets
- get real. This doesn't use the NTP time service. That's the name
- of the atomic clock service over Internet. I dont have an NTP
- client and I really dont need one-- know whatta mean?
-
- All of these clients except the Eudora mail reader will start
- the Trumpet driver or try to connect if its not already running.
- So expect that when you initially start a client. You can compose
- Eudora messages before connecting but to access anything else, have
- the driver running first; even if its not dialed in.
-
-
- 7) SHOPPING:
-
- Here's the CICA winsock index to save you some time.
- **
- ** Index of Windows Sockets (Winsock) Interface Apps in
- ** in ~ftp/pub/pc/win3/winsock at ftp.cica.indiana.edu
- ** [129.79.26.27]
- **
- ** Last Updated: Tue Apr 12 23:11:41 1994
- **
- **
-
- bsdchat.exe 940321 Berkeley WinSock Daemon Talk Client
- cello.zip 940218 lo WWW Browser Release 1.0 (16 Feb 1994)
- col_12b1.zip 940311 NCSA Collage for Winsock [203k]
- cooksock.zip 931002 Cookie server for windows sockets interface
- eudora14.exe 931217 PC Eudora 1.4 WinSockAPI 1.1 POP3/SMTP mail client
- ewais154.zip 931123 EINet WAIS client application v1.54 for Winsock
- finger31.zip 930810 Windows Sockets Finger Client
- gcp_24.exe 940407 GCP++ TCP/IP Tools for Winsock v2.4.2 [1.06mb]
- gophbk11.zip 930713 GopherBook, ToolBook based Gopher Client for WinSock
- hgoph24.zip 940117 H gopher 2.4 is a Winsock compliant gopher client
- phwin22.zip 940407 Full and free CCSO ph client using the winsock 1.1 API
- qvtws397.zip 940307 Windows-Sockets compliant version of TCP/IP WinQVT/Net
- qws3270.zip 940325 qws3270 winsock tn3270 emulator 3/25/94 release
- serweb03.zip 931209 World Wide Web Server for Windows 3.1 and NT
- sticky.zip 940311 Sticky POST-IT(TM) Notes for Winsock
- tektel1a.zip 940311 Tektonix (4000) Terminal Emulation for Winsock
- trmptel.zip 940311 Trumpet TELNET (VT100) Terminal for Winsock
- tsync1_4.zip 940119 Winsock app sets your PC's clock to match a remote host
- txtsrv.zip 931002 text server for Winsock API; speaks finger protocol
- web3ham.zip 940322 Web4Ham - A World Wibe Web Server for Winsock
- wftpd19.zip 940323 Windows FTP daemon 1.8b for Winsock 1.1
- wgopher.zip 940201 Gopher for Windows Version 2.2
- winapps.zip 931201 Winsock apps that were prev bundled with winsock.zip
- winelm.zip 940319 WinElm E-mail reader for Winsock
- winfsp12.zip 930810 FSP download application which uses WINSOCK.DLL
- winftp.zip 940111 WinSock FTP program executables for Windows NT
- wingp.zip 940311 Green Pages for Window Sockets 1.1 Winsock [951k]
- winpanda.zip 940311 Panda:gopher, ftp, e-mail & news clients for Winsock
- winsock.zip 940202 Peter Tattam's Trumpet Winsock ver 1.0
- wintelb3.zip 931202 NCSA Telnet for MS Windows (unsupported beta 3)
- wnvn082s.zip 931202 WinVN the NNTP newsreader for Windows (winsock)
- wlprs40.zip 940312 WLPRSPL v4, a Windows Sockets based print spooler
- wmos20a2.zip 940301 NCSA Mosaic v. 2.0 alpha 2 for MS Windows
- ws_ftp.zip 940325 Windows Sockets FTP Client Application Ver 94.03.25
- ws_ping.zip 931003 Windows Sockets PING Client Release 1 Version 93.10.03
- wsarchie.zip 940322 Mar94 version of WSArchie, Archie Client for WinSock
- wsatest.zip 940311 WSA Test Program for Winsock
- wschesb1.zip 940318 Multiplayer Winsock Chess Beta 1
- wsck-nfs.zip 931029 Allow PC-NFS v5.0 to handle any Winsock compliant app
- wslpd.zip 931002 Winsock Line Printer Daemon LPD for Windows
- wsmtpd16.zip 931027 Windows 3.1 and NT SimpleMailTransProtocol Daemon
- wsock1b2.zip 930728 WinSock: Socket-DLLs for NCSA Telnet for Windows
- wtwsk10a.zip 931002 Trumpet Newsreader NNTP for winsock
- -------------------
- Kevin Hintergardt
- kevin@chico.wa.com
- Welcome to the Information Goat Path
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- Date: 27 Apr 94 14:55:53 GMT
- From: choang@tdkt.mn.org (Carl Hoang)
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- Subject: EDI and HL7
-
- Can someone point me to where I can find discussion groups on EDI and
- HL7? Thanks.
- ---
- * OFFLINE 1.56 * Carl Hoang choang@tdkt.mn.org
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- From: Fisher Mark <FisherM@is3.indy.tce.com>
- Subject: Re: In search of.... Winsock telnet app with KERMIT support
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- >From what I understand, later versions of (alas!) DOS Kermit include TCP/IP
- & TELNET capabilities over a packet driver. I believe (but haven't seen it
- actually done) that these DOS Kermits will run in a windows under Windows.
- Haven't heard of a WinSock version of Kermit, yet...
- ======================================================================
- Mark Fisher Thomson Consumer Electronics
- fisherm@tcemail.indy.tce.com Indianapolis, IN
-
- "Just as you should not underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon
- traveling 65 mph filled with 8mm tapes, you should not overestimate
- the bandwidth of FTP by mail."
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- From: Fisher Mark <FisherM@is3.indy.tce.com>
- Subject: Re: Cello vs Mosaic
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-
- I use both Cello and WinMosaic, but I like Cello better. The speed of Cello
- far outstrips Mosaic, to the point that I only run Mosaic when I need forms
- or to check if a problem I am seeing is due to my misconfiguration of our
- WWW server. The stability of Cello seems greater than that of Mosaic
- v2.0a2. Mosaic has a habit of crashing at the oddest URLs. My suspicion is
- that Thomas Bruce (author of Cello) is farther up on the Microsoft Windows
- learning curve than the Mosaic authors (putting on asbestos suit :)). I
- have to maintain different sets of habits for my Windows and NT GUI
- programming than I do for my VMS and UNIX programming, so I find that
- understandable.
-
- As for <patlee.417.003B811B@panix.com>, where Patrick Lee says:
- >One thing that I like Mosaic over Cello is Mosaic's standard use of text-
- >based INI file. I can edit it with a text editor if I like, which I cannot
- >with Cello's (non-text-based, at least as of version 1.0).
- I think you are speaking of the additional bookmark and style files (not
- CELLO.INI), which I do not understand why they are in binary. On the other
- hand, the .INI file format can be pretty inflexible, as we found out locally
- (esp. when you need variable #'s of nearly identical entries:
- topic1=blah
- topic2=bleah
- topic3=bloh
- ...).
-
- Forms support will arrive in Cello v2, which I gather Tom is madly coding
- away at. Forms are something I could really use in my WWW application, so
- much so that I am coding around it; after all, how DO you put a document
- into your node of the Web? Tom: that "file input form widget" would be REAL
- nice...
- ======================================================================
- Mark Fisher Thomson Consumer Electronics
- fisherm@tcemail.indy.tce.com Indianapolis, IN
-
- "Just as you should not underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon
- traveling 65 mph filled with 8mm tapes, you should not overestimate
- the bandwidth of FTP by mail."
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- From: Fisher Mark <FisherM@is3.indy.tce.com>
- Subject: RE: TN5250 ???
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-
- Chameleon 4.0 has a TN5250 app. I don't have an AS/400 locally to try it
- on, so I don't know about the quality. I would give their ethernet stack
- ***** (out of 5), while I would give their apps I have used (FTP, TELNET,
- TN3270, and NEWT statistics) ****1/2.
- ======================================================================
- Mark Fisher Thomson Consumer Electronics
- fisherm@tcemail.indy.tce.com Indianapolis, IN
-
- "Just as you should not underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon
- traveling 65 mph filled with 8mm tapes, you should not overestimate
- the bandwidth of FTP by mail."
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- Date: 28 Apr 1994 16:31:11 GMT
- From: skeckhardt@mmm.com (Steve Eckhardt)
- Message-Id: <2poocf$r7o@dawn.mmm.com>
- Organization: 3M Visual Systems Division
- Sender: ses
- References: <ctp.12.2DBE7FE0@ag-eco.tamu.edu>
- Reply-To: skeckhardt@bigblue.oit.unc.edu
- Subject: Re: March Beta Trouble
-
- In article <ctp.12.2DBE7FE0@ag-eco.tamu.edu>, ctp@ag-eco.tamu.edu (Todd Purifoy) says:
- >
- >I am running novell and wfw with the March beta. The only problem I seem to
- >have is occasional hangs. The only consistent hang up I get is tring to go to
- >the msdos prompt. Does anyone know why this happens and how to fix it?
- >I am pretty sure I made all the needed changes in my *.ini files. I figure
- >there may be some undocumented change I can make to stabalize this stuff.
- >Thanks
- >
- >
- >ctp@ag-eco.tamu.edu
-
- Try the April beta. It solved our "hang after print" problem; it might solve
- your problem too.
-
- Steve Eckhardt (skeckhardt@mmm.com)
- Opinions? Those are *facts* son. (been in Texas too long)
- From news@bigblue.oit.unc.edu Fri Apr 25 14:41:49 1994
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- Date: 25 Apr 94 14:41:49 GMT
- From: dmga@chevron.com
- Message-Id: <1994Apr25.144149.9939@nntpserver.chevron.com>
- Organization: Chevron
- Sender: ses
- References: <2p6d73$7vo@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
- Reply-To: dmga@chevron.com
- Subject: Re: Is it worth trying out the TCP/IP betas?
-
- In article <2p6d73$7vo@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>, chrisw@leland.Stanford.EDU (Christopher Jon Wilkins) says:
- >
- >
- >The question is: is it worth buying WFWG3.11 and downloading one of the
- >Microsoft TCP/IP betas (which one: there seems to be two?). What extra features
- >will this give me? Is it worth the money (only $31 per PC at academic
- >prices). Shoudl I just wait until the next batch of WIndows products comes
- >out?
- >
- YES, The Daytona Beta has been very stable for us. I've used it on various
- pc's 386/33 - 486/66 (Austin, Gateways, Compaq). About the only program
- that we can't get to work is Rumba 3 release 5. Hope Rumba 4 fixes this.
-
- There is also more 32bit code in 3.11.
-
- Regards, David in Houston.
- From news@bigblue.oit.unc.edu Tue Apr 29 09:33:55 1994
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- Date: 29 Apr 1994 09:33:55 GMT
- From: axel@hp1.ang-physik.uni-kiel.de (Axel Sommerfeldt)
- Message-Id: <2pqka3$dtf@solid.theo-physik.uni-kiel.de>
- Organization: Department of Theoretical Physics, University of Kiel, Germany
- Sender: ses
- References: <zander.86.00EE17F2@lysator.liu.se>
- Subject: Re: A free Telnet for winsock
-
- zander@lysator.liu.se (Peter Zander) writes:
-
- >I have uploaded a new version of EWAN, my VT100/telnet for winsock on:
- >ftp.lysator.liu.se in /pub/msdos/windows/ewan1b.arj
- >also available from page
- >http://www.lysator.liu.se/~zander/ewan.html
-
- Can someone place it on a better location? E.g. CICA, who has many mirrors!
-
- Axel.
-
- --
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- axel@hp1.ang-physik.uni-kiel.de | Warum hat uns Gott f"ur die Rippe nicht lieber
- Harald_Sommerfeldt@ki.maus.de | gleich ein Motorrad gegeben? (Chris Vetter)
- From news@bigblue.oit.unc.edu Mon Apr 28 03:13:29 1994
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- Date: 28 Apr 1994 03:13:29 GMT
- From: cpunk@halcyon.halcyon.com (Malcolm G. Mead)
- Message-Id: <2pn9kp$lqj@nwfocus.wa.com>
- Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc.
- Sender: ses
- Subject: MY KINGDOM FOR A DECENT NEWSREADER
-
- Please please plesaase... somebody tell me there is a decent newsreader
- client somewhere in teh digital universe!!!! Mail me a note and I'll be
- very very grateful!!!! (sorry about the typos... unfamiliar editor...
- ..
-
-